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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well played.  Micah, you are correct on both questions (or at least you got the same answers as I did).

The first question is a little tricky, as it is tempting to think of it being equally likely that Susan is Brown-Blue than that she is Brown-Brown.  But Blue-Brown is also a possibility that must be counted separately.

The second question is much more difficult, and I think there are a number of ways you could go wrong.  On the surface, as Kimi points out, it seems that Jason&#039;s brown eyes give us no new information.  But while it is true that Ian&#039;s eyes are not dependent on Jason&#039;s, Jason&#039;s brown eyes give us a bit more information about Susan.  With each brown-eyed child she has without a blue-eyed one, it becomes slightly more likely that she is Brown-Brown.

David, for example, is one of five children, all of whom have brown eyes.  So there is a 32/33 chance that his mother was Brown-Brown... assuming that a brown-eyed person in the general population is equally likely to be homozygous as heterozygous.  If it&#039;s actually 2/3, as above, then the chances of her being Brown-Brown would be 32/34, or 16/17.

As you might suspect by now, this story is entirely true, and I am Bill.  According to Susan, Jason&#039;s eyes are actually hazel-green and Ian&#039;s eyes are brown.

And finally... Welcome, Little Fish! I know this sort of thing isn&#039;t everyone&#039;s cup of tea, but I&#039;m sure you can appreciate the avuncular affection in trying to guess my nephews&#039; eye color before they were born.

&lt;strong&gt;Answers&lt;/strong&gt;

Question 1: 1/6

Question 2: 3/20</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well played.  Micah, you are correct on both questions (or at least you got the same answers as I did).</p>
<p>The first question is a little tricky, as it is tempting to think of it being equally likely that Susan is Brown-Blue than that she is Brown-Brown.  But Blue-Brown is also a possibility that must be counted separately.</p>
<p>The second question is much more difficult, and I think there are a number of ways you could go wrong.  On the surface, as Kimi points out, it seems that Jason&#8217;s brown eyes give us no new information.  But while it is true that Ian&#8217;s eyes are not dependent on Jason&#8217;s, Jason&#8217;s brown eyes give us a bit more information about Susan.  With each brown-eyed child she has without a blue-eyed one, it becomes slightly more likely that she is Brown-Brown.</p>
<p>David, for example, is one of five children, all of whom have brown eyes.  So there is a 32/33 chance that his mother was Brown-Brown&#8230; assuming that a brown-eyed person in the general population is equally likely to be homozygous as heterozygous.  If it&#8217;s actually 2/3, as above, then the chances of her being Brown-Brown would be 32/34, or 16/17.</p>
<p>As you might suspect by now, this story is entirely true, and I am Bill.  According to Susan, Jason&#8217;s eyes are actually hazel-green and Ian&#8217;s eyes are brown.</p>
<p>And finally&#8230; Welcome, Little Fish! I know this sort of thing isn&#8217;t everyone&#8217;s cup of tea, but I&#8217;m sure you can appreciate the avuncular affection in trying to guess my nephews&#8217; eye color before they were born.</p>
<p><strong>Answers</strong></p>
<p>Question 1: 1/6</p>
<p>Question 2: 3/20</p>
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		<title>By: kimi =)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>micah, i was with you all the way to B2... i laid it out a little differently, with the same results.

i thought the 2nd question was a trick question, though, cuz i thought that the eyes of the 2nd kid weren&#039;t dependent on the 1st kid&#039;s eyes.  although now that i think about it, i can see that if jason&#039;s eyes were blue, that would change the odds of the 2nd kid&#039;s eyes...  that&#039;s a good answer you got there =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>micah, i was with you all the way to B2&#8230; i laid it out a little differently, with the same results.</p>
<p>i thought the 2nd question was a trick question, though, cuz i thought that the eyes of the 2nd kid weren&#8217;t dependent on the 1st kid&#8217;s eyes.  although now that i think about it, i can see that if jason&#8217;s eyes were blue, that would change the odds of the 2nd kid&#8217;s eyes&#8230;  that&#8217;s a good answer you got there =)</p>
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		<title>By: micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice problem! Conditional probability is fun.

David carries the blue-eyed gene (he got it from his mom). Susan&#039;s parents both carry the blue-eyed gene (they both gave it to her brother). This means that Susan has a 2/3 chance of carrying the gene, given that she has brown eyes.

So:
A) There&#039;s a 1/3 chance that Susan doesn&#039;t carry the blue-eyed gene.
B) There&#039;s a 2/3 chance that she does.

If Susan carries the blue-eyed gene, the children have a 1/4 chance of being blue-eyed. So we can expand the above to:
A) 1/3 chance that Susan doesn&#039;t carry the gene, so all her children are definitely brown-eyed.
B1) 1/2 (=2/3*3/4) chance that Susan carries the gene, but Jason has brown eyes anyway.
B2) 1/6 chance that Jason has blue eyes.

If Jason is brown-eyed, we&#039;re in either situation A or B1, so there&#039;s a 2/5 (=1/3 divided by 5/6) chance that Susan doesn&#039;t carry the gene, and a 3/5 chance she does. So the odds that Ian has blue eyes are 3/5*1/4=3/20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice problem! Conditional probability is fun.</p>
<p>David carries the blue-eyed gene (he got it from his mom). Susan&#8217;s parents both carry the blue-eyed gene (they both gave it to her brother). This means that Susan has a 2/3 chance of carrying the gene, given that she has brown eyes.</p>
<p>So:<br />
A) There&#8217;s a 1/3 chance that Susan doesn&#8217;t carry the blue-eyed gene.<br />
B) There&#8217;s a 2/3 chance that she does.</p>
<p>If Susan carries the blue-eyed gene, the children have a 1/4 chance of being blue-eyed. So we can expand the above to:<br />
A) 1/3 chance that Susan doesn&#8217;t carry the gene, so all her children are definitely brown-eyed.<br />
B1) 1/2 (=2/3*3/4) chance that Susan carries the gene, but Jason has brown eyes anyway.<br />
B2) 1/6 chance that Jason has blue eyes.</p>
<p>If Jason is brown-eyed, we&#8217;re in either situation A or B1, so there&#8217;s a 2/5 (=1/3 divided by 5/6) chance that Susan doesn&#8217;t carry the gene, and a 3/5 chance she does. So the odds that Ian has blue eyes are 3/5*1/4=3/20.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My head hurts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My head hurts.</p>
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