{"id":36,"date":"2007-01-17T23:47:13","date_gmt":"2007-01-18T04:47:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shakespeareteacher.com\/blog\/archives\/36"},"modified":"2013-09-01T22:15:44","modified_gmt":"2013-09-02T03:15:44","slug":"the-winters-tale-vs-cymbeline","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shakespeareteacher.com\/blog\/archives\/36","title":{"rendered":"<em>The Winter&#8217;s Tale<\/em> vs. <em>Cymbeline<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Now, the gloves come off.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve blogged about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shakespeareteacher.com\/blog\/archives\/10\">gay muppets<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shakespeareteacher.com\/blog\/archives\/42\">Iraq War<\/a>, and the sexual proclivities of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shakespeareteacher.com\/blog\/archives\/4\">a certain 13th century Mongolian conqueror<\/a> who shall remain nameless, but now I&#8217;m ready to tackle some real controversy.  Read on, but please use discretion.<\/p>\n<p>I have a group that meets once a month to do readings of Shakespeare&#8217;s plays.  This past weekend, we read <em>The Winter&#8217;s Tale<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I&#8217;ve never been a big fan of <em>The Winter&#8217;s Tale<\/em>.  But a lot of serious Shakespeare fans list it among their favorites, which leads me to believe there&#8217;s more there than I&#8217;m seeing, and perhaps I will like it more when I&#8217;ve given it more attention.  I don&#8217;t know.  Events seem to happen haphazardly and without cause.  The characters give me no reason to want to wish them well.  And I feel kind of cheated that the reunion of the king with his daughter is presented second-hand in an exposition scene, rather than the brilliant dialogue Shakespeare could have chosen to write.<\/p>\n<p>The play is usually classified as a &#8220;Romance&#8221; which is a lesser-known Shakespearean genre (compared to Comedy, Tragedy, and History) that Shakespeare experimented with late in his career.  It is believed that he started with <em>Pericles<\/em> and <em>Cymbeline<\/em> (not usually considered among his best works), gradually improved the form in <em>The Winter&#8217;s Tale<\/em>, and finally created <em>The Tempest<\/em>, which is usually considered to be the finest of his works in the genre.  Romances (as they are found in Shakespeare) are generally characterized by fairy tale elements such as long-lost relatives; gods, spirits, and other supernatural elements; and exploring a relationship with nature.  Intrestingly enough, the Comedy <em>As You Like It<\/em>, written much earlier, contains all of these elements, but is never classified as a Romance (though it is sometimes classified, by itself, as a Pastoral).  But the Romances <em>Cymbeline<\/em> and <em>The Winter&#8217;s Tale<\/em> in particular are very closely connected by their treatment of these elements.<\/p>\n<p>Which leads me to my point.  I think that <em>Cymbeline<\/em> is a much better play than <em>The Winter&#8217;s Tale<\/em>, but doesn&#8217;t get nearly the respect.  <em>Cymbeline<\/em> has a beautiful fairy-tale quality, better poetic language, more human characters, a logical (albeit far-fetched) structured motivated plot, a clear moral code of values, and a satisfying ending.  Imogen is one of the great female roles in Shakespeare, and &#8212; I know this is heresy &#8212; Hermione is not.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, yeah.  I went there.<\/p>\n<p>Most memorable moment of <em>Cymbeline<\/em>?  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bartleby.com\/70\/4642.html\">The funeral dirge<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Fear no more the heat o&#8217; the sun,<br \/>\nNor the furious winter&#8217;s rages;<br \/>\nThou thy worldly task hast done,<br \/>\nHome art gone, and ta&#8217;en thy wages;<br \/>\nGolden lads and girls all must,<br \/>\nAs chimney-sweepers, come to dust.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Most memorable moment of <em>The Winter&#8217;s Tale<\/em>?  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bartleby.com\/70\/2433.html\">A stage direction<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Exit, pursued by a bear.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Look, I don&#8217;t hate <em>The Winter&#8217;s Tale<\/em>.  I just don&#8217;t understand why it holds a special place in the hearts of so many, when <em>Cymbeline<\/em> doesn&#8217;t.  The plays are closely connected, so I think it&#8217;s fair to compare the two.  I wouldn&#8217;t try to compare, say, <em>Othello<\/em> with <em>A Midsummer Night&#8217;s Dream<\/em>, but I can say this:<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Cymbeline<\/em> is a much better play than <em>The Winter&#8217;s Tale<\/em>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Does anybody have a problem with that?<\/p>\n<p>All visitors to the blog who are familiar with both plays are welcome to debate the issue in the comments section of this post.  If a lively discussion ensues (and how could it possibly not?), I will jump in and defend my position.<\/p>\n<p><!--b12d1d4704b6536f39b7de05f7f9f281--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Now, the gloves come off. I&#8217;ve blogged about gay muppets, the Iraq War, and the sexual proclivities of a certain 13th century Mongolian conqueror who shall remain nameless, but now I&#8217;m ready to tackle some real controversy. Read on, but please use discretion. 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